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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:11 pm 
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I've had a private query from a descendant of Lieutenant William Hobbs who was posted to HMS Bellerophon in 1796 and is believed to have been still serving in this ship when he met his death off the coast of Holland in 1799, possibly during the evacuation of British troops.


He had a son, also Lt William Hobbs, who died in Egypt in 1801. His widow and family emigrated to Australia, whence my correspondent writes.

Can anyone supply any further information about Lt Hobbs, and the circumstances of his death?

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William Hobbs

Passed for Lieutenant in 1781; commissioned 2 August 1781.
Passing papers in the National Archives under reference ADM. 6/89 page 51. If a copy is obtained, it will show his service up to that time.

He was not in the Bellerophon in 1799 - this ship was in the Med in 1798 under Nelson and fought at the Nile - all her Lieutenants were killed or wounded except the Third, a Lieut Cathcart; she did not get back to England until 1800.

A check on Steel's Navy Lists shows him as being in command of the Gunboat BOUNCER from May 1797 until May 1799 (the time of his death?).
She was stationed at St Helens 1797-98; Jersey in 1799.

Lieut Hobb's journal,whilst in command of the Bouncer,is now in the National Archives, reference ADM.51/4038.

The ships pay book for the period is ADM.35/196 and may give some more info.


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The other William Hobbs passed for Lieutenant in 1799 - the papers now in the National Archives, reference ADM.6/97 page 219 and ADM.107/23 page 323 apparently have his parents details.

He was killed 9 May 1801 in Egypt, but I do not have details


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To clarify the BOUNCER's service ; she is shown as being on the Nore station in 1797-98 then 'cruising' in the Channel 1798-99; Channel, based at Portsmouth in 1799.

BOUNCER was a 162 ton brig, built by Wells at Deptford in 1797; classed as a gunboat the class were notable for having a drop keel. Armed with 12 x 18pdr carronades and 2 x long 24 pdrs; had a complement of 50 men.


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Further to PhiloN's info, a snippet in Google Books suggests Lieutenant Hobbs 'died at Portsmouth of severe internal injuries after a fall while in command of HM brig Bounder in the Jersey roads in 1799' - Marjorie Tipping, Convicts unbound: the story of the Calcutta convicts and their settlement in Australia, 1988, page 74. The name of the brig is slightly wrong, but the rest of the details match up well.

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Great posts, gentlemen! Many thanks indeed. I'll pass on all this very interesting information.

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Here's some detail on the son's death from Brenton's Naval History:
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On the 25th of March the Capitan Pacha, with five sail of the line, and 5,000 Turks and Albanians, arrived in the bay of Aboukir. Colonel Spencer was detached to Rosetta with 4,000 Turks and a body of British troops. On the 9th of May he defeated General La Grange, at Rhamanie, and entered that place without opposition. The land forces were attended in their progress up the Nile by a strong escort of British gun-boats and launches, under the command of Captain Stephenson, supported by Captains Morrison, Curry, and Hillyar, of the royal navy. These valuable auxiliaries proceeded with courage and success, and were so fortunate as to bring their guns to bear on the French cavalry, which they greatly annoyed in its retreat. Lieutenant Hobbs, of the Delft, of 64 guns, was killed, with some of his men; but in other respects the loss was trifling, when compared with the advantages derived from the combined movement.

The Naval Chronicle vol 7 (1802) reported on p.173:
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The mother of Lieutenant Hobbs, of the Royal Navy, who so gallantly distinguished himself in Egypt, and died from fatigue, has received through our Government, by order of tht Grand Seignor, 5700 piastres; equal to 500l. sterling.

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This page contains more information on the family extracted from Convicts Unbound by Marjorie Tipping

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