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 Post subject: What did a "Pay Book" look like?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 11:05 pm 
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Sorry folks - it's another "money related" question.

Of the various records held at the National Archive I am quite conversant with Log Books and Muster Books. But I have never seen a "Pay Book".

Can anyone describe the content of these books - or even better provide a copy/scan.

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I have looked at a couple of pay books, but unfortunately did not take photos or obtain copies. They were very large and unwieldy, with lots of columns. Most of the columns are identical to a muster, not surprisingly, as they are copied from the muster. Some of the extra columns are as follows:
    Wages remitted from abroad
    Wages remitted at the Pay of the Ship
    Full Wages
    Neat Wages - net pay after deductions
    Blank headed column - marked to indicate if paid
    When paid
    To Whom Paid - This could contain multiple entries if some pay was remitted and the balance paid in cash. The name, relationship and means of payment were entered for each.

There were planty more columns, but these are probably the most important.

I should confess that this is not from memory, or even my notes, but from NAM Rodger's 'Naval Records for Genealogists', a slim book which includes much of interest to those other than genealogists, including 20 odd pages on muster books and pay books, with descriptions of columns, explanation of their use, and information on the procedures in use at the time.

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Tony

Sorry to put you to that trouble.

Believe it or not I had forgotten that I actually have a copy of "Naval Records for Genealogists".

I just pulled it out and as you say everything I wanted is in there.

It really does include a wealth of information!

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 Post subject: Pay Books
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HI. Hope you don't mind this approach but I have a medal to HMS Victory crewman who went on to HMS Ocean, HMS Salvador Del Mundo and would dearly like to see what this Pay Book would look like. My crewman on Victory was "SB 659" and then"SB 361" on Ocean. Thanks in anticipation. Naturally if a copy needed to be sent I would gladly pay for the the service.
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 Post subject: Re: Pay Books
PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:48 pm 
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Hi, hope this is on the same tack, but what about an S.43A Naval Pay and Identity Book. The contents of this are numerous from pay & conditions to issue of travel warrents etc.
Robbie
ps.sorry if this is not the tack your on mates.


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