Nelson & His World

Discussion on the life and times of Admiral Lord Nelson
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 Post subject: Re: Caveat emptor
PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:43 pm 
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Tony,

Regarding your first paragraph, yes, I think we all agree.

As to your second, as you say, how weird is that? After the first Union many, presumably Scots, brought out some rather strange designs which either gave the St. Andrews Cross precedence, or at least tried not to have it 'tainted' by the St George's Cross! One wonders if Howe's flag was along those lines, although he wan't Scottish, but 1794 or thereabouts would seem rather a late date for them to keep trying! Perhaps I was being a bit pedantic! :wink:

It would indeed be interesting to know what happened to the ensign from the funeral carriage.

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 Post subject: Re: Caveat emptor
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:15 pm 
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Just to correct my previous post, the ensign given to William Rivers passed to his son on his death, and then to his son's wife, before being put up for auction in 1905.

William Rivers also owned the Union flag that had covered the coffin at the funeral, and this was also in the same auction in 1905.

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 Post subject: Re: Caveat emptor
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:22 pm 
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I came across this wonderful poem, written soon after Nelson's funeral in 1806:
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LINES OCCASIONED BY A CIRCUMSTANCE THAT OCCURRED AT LORD NELSON'S FUNERAL.

[In the funeral procession of Lord Nelson, some sailors of the Victory bore the Great St. George's ensign of that ship, and, as the coffin was let down into the grave, laid it over as a kind of pall. When the ceremony had finished, some young men, standing near the tomb, actuated by an impulse of the moment, and anxious to possess some memorial of so proud a trophy, seized the flag, and tore a part of it off, a small piece of which was given to the author of the following lines.]

Relic of Albion’s flag! whose waving pride
Late swept triumphant o'er th' Atlantic tide ;
On Victory's stern display'd Britannia's sway,
And mark'd her peerless oh the wat’ry way ;
No more, with triumph beaming in his eye,
Shall godlike Nelson see thy glories fly !
In Death's cold urn his sacred ashes rest;
Quench'd is that fire which warm'd his noble breast;
That spirit's fled which aw'd Iberia's pride—
It saw France humbled, then to glory hied.

To earth alone he's lost: his mighty soul,
Bursting the mould'ring body's weak control,
In deathless joys, which fame immortal gives,
With sages, heroes, patriots, angels, lives.

And thou, dear relic ! (in an after age
Some Briton musing o'er th' historic page)
Thou shalt, (if haply thy remains he view)
Again be moisten'd with a briny dew.

Chelsea, Feb. 1806. O.C.T.

Source: The Monthly Mirror, Volume 21, 1806, p346


Let's hope the Briton's tears are for the right reason!

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 Post subject: Re: Caveat emptor
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:17 pm 
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Members might recall that I posted a piece of music I'd acquired that was published almost immediately after the news of Nelson's death reached England.

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R. Cumberland, Esq, who penned the verses that Mr Braham set to music, records in a flight of poetic fancy that at least one flag was used to wrap the hero's body:

'In death's dark house the hero lies.
Cold his heart and closed his eyes.
His flag that to the foe ne'er bowed
His signal once, but now his shroud.......'

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 Post subject: Re: Caveat emptor
PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:09 pm 
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The ensign was actually used to wrap the coffin on its way to Greenwich:
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The " Victory," with the remains of the ever-to-be-Iamented Nelson, arrived off Sheerness, Sunday, December 22, 1805.

The body was placed the following morning on board the "Chatham" yacht, proceeding on her way to Greenwich. The coffin, covered with an ensign, was placed on deck. Tuesday she arrived at Greenwich; the body, still being in the coffin made of the wreck of " L'Orient," was then enveloped in the colours of the "Victory," bound round by a piece of rope, and carried by sailors, part of the crew of the " Victory," to the Painted Hall, where preparations were made for the lying in state; the days appointed for which were Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, January 5, 6, and 7, 1806, and to which all due effect was given. Wednesday, January 8, the first day's procession by water took place, and the remains were removed from Greenwich to Whitehall, and from thence to the Admiralty, with all possible pomp and solemnity. This procession of barges, &c. was nearly a mile long, minute guns being fired during its progress. The banner of emblems was borne by Captain Hardy, Lord Nelson's captain. The body was deposited that night in the captain's room at the Admiralty, and attended by the Rev. John Scott.
Maybe this is what the correspondence quoted by Cowan's was referring to.

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 Post subject: Re: Caveat emptor
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Tony,

Thanks for that, although the wording might lead to some confusion as to whether it was the body or the coffin which were wrapped in the colours, or was it both! I take it though that it's the latter.

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