Nelson & His World

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 Post subject: Superstitions
PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:30 am 
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I'm sure we've discussed seamen's supersitions somewhere on the site but I can't locate it.

I got this surprising information in a Google Alert - actually extricated from a looooooong sermon which I shall not inflict upon you.

Britain's Sir Winston Churchill petted black cats to bring him good luck. Another Brit, Admiral Lord Nelson, tacked a horseshoe onto the mast of the ship to bring him good luck in war.

Napoleon feared the number 13.


Are these assertions true? I know Churchill liked cats, and I've heard that Napoleon abhorred them. What about Nelson's horseshoe? Is this true? - He didn't have much luck with horses, as I recall. One horse of his bit someone and another galloped off with him and threw him.

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 Post subject: Re: Superstitions
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It is true there was a horseshoe nailed to the Victory’s mast, but I don’t see any particular reason to suppose that Nelson had anything to do with it being put there – the Admiral wasn’t personally responsible for everything that happened on board! The following is from the United Service Magazine in 1840:
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That seamen have not yet conquered their fear of witches, may be inferred from the horse-shoe which is generally nailed on the front of the fore-mast, heel downwards, to prevent them from coming over the bows, and to counteract the malice of those which ride upon the shrouds of the storm-tossed vessel. Even the portion of the Victory's mast which now supports the bust of Nelson in the proud and regal Castle of Windsor, still retains this powerful witchifuge...

The earliest reference that Google Books throws up is Chambers Edinburgh Journal in 1836:
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“... Speaking of the virtue of cauls," said I, in an inquiring tone, to the captain, "I have heard it mentioned that a horse-shoe, when nailed to the mast of a vessel, is also a capital preventive of danger ; perhaps you can tell me if I am right." "Yes," answered Broderip, " a horse-shoe—that is, if it has been pretty well worn—is not a bad thing to sail with. Some commanders, indeed, prefer it to a caul, though I cannot say I am of that way of thinking. It is not to be depended on—it is not to be depended on, sir. Nelson—our immortal Nelson—always sailed with a horse-shoe on board ; but such an article, do you see, did little good for him in the long run. It may help one through a bit of a stiff breeze in foul weather, when your vessel is riding off and on a lee shore with breakers ahead; but there is one thing certain: it cannot ward off a shower of bullets—can do nothing against a well-aimed rifle fired from the shrouds of a French seventy-four. Nelson, as I say, had a horse shoe nailed to the mast of the Victory when he fell; and you may see it to this day, if you please, in one of the state-rooms of Windsor Castle, still nailed to a lump of the mast. It has been taken under the patronage of royalty, as one may say; still, after all, commend me to a good caul. It is worth all the horseshoes in the world..."

The portion of the mast, shot through by a cannon ball, was eventually returned to the Victory, and there are photos of it (with horseshoe) on this page: http://mysite.verizon.net/krista.smith/victory.html

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 Post subject: Re: Superstitions
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Well, you learn something new every day! Many thanks!

The reference to the 'caul' as a talisman is not new to me. Some babies are born with a protective membrane known as a caul, and which sailors call 'a lucky cap'. I know this because my uncle was born 'in the caul', and the news spread round the village. In no time at all, a sailor appeared on the doorstep anxious to buy it - apparently as a protection against drowning. (This would be in the 1920s.)

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 Post subject: Re: Superstitions
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I think cauls were also auctioned off, but how did they preserve them? Must have been a bit smelly - my daughter was almost born in a caul - the amniotic sac burst as she came out, but her head was very stinky later because of it! Would they have dried it out and put it in a glass case - if so has anyone come across one in an antique shop?

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 Post subject: Re: Superstitions
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It is AMAZING what you can discover on the WWW!

http://www.caulbearer.org/caul/cb_preservingacaul.php

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 Post subject: Re: Superstitions
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I didn’t think I was superstitious until Witches and Horseshoes was mentioned.

What did I build into my chimney—a be-nice-to-witches resting place.
And what did I nail to the nearest thing to a mast in my little house—a horseshoe, albeit a racing plate from my Indian past.

Note the new Chinese portrait of Alexander Ball mounted in the roof so that he can oversee two decks at once!! :roll:


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